Can you look at an astrology birth chart and tell if a person is a narcissist or has narcissistic personality disorder?
Just a reminder that I’m not a professional astrologer, but I very much enjoy it as a hobby and I’ve been studying it for about 11 years.
The short answer is no. At least, not in my experience. However, I have found some rather interesting conjunctions in the natal charts of people I personally know who have either been professionally diagnosed as having Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) or exhibit the 9 characteristics of NPD.
The chart above belongs to a man I’ve known for 25 years, before I understood that I was an empath. Early in our interactions, we had many discussions of psychology and human dynamics, including an long list of childhood memories and an early diagnosis of NPD that remained unchanged over long years of therapy in adulthood. This man was absolutely charming and charismatic, as you might guess from his Pluto-Venus conjunction 8 Virgo 52 and 8 Virgo 35. This conjunction also meant that, in looking at synastry, or his relationships, I noted that the people of his generation (having the same Pluto) found him extremely intense and…shiny. There are other things in his chart that support the features of NPD but the standout–to me–is his Venus-Pluto pairing. This is beauty/love/romance (Venus) paired with nuclear intensity (Pluto) at the same degree.
Does this mean that anyone with a Venus-Pluto pairing has Narcissistic Personality Disorder? I have no idea. I’m sure Venus-Pluto can manifest in other ways. Most conjunctions have different flavors to them, so why not?
Does this mean that all charming and charismatic people have narcissistic personality disorder? Nope. But many of them are very, very, VERY exciting to be around–I’ve known a few who wanted to have their own cult following…no kidding. Am I saying that all narcissists are charming and charismatic? Oh, most definitely not. From my observations of the narcissists in my life, some are definitely not bigger-than-life personalities except in their own minds.
But I do find the natal charts of narcissists to be very telling.
Here’s another chart, this time of confirmed narcissist I’ve known since I was a teen:
This one manifested in a more behind-the-scenes personality than the previous chart’s owner. While Pluto and Venus are not in a tight orb, the Ascendant in the middle of this trio made for an explosive personality, with the explosions just below the surface. The twelfth house moon in Leo was also an eye-opener but I’ll stick to the similarities in these charts.
In every natal chart I have of narcissists I’ve “experienced” over the last 30 years, there tends to be a conjunction or square of Venus and Pluto OR Venus and Uranus on fewer occasions. I’m not sure if Venus-Pluto oppositions would create the same results: I simply don’t have any charts with that aspect.
I’ve seen these same Venus-Pluto pairings in synastry where the relationship is very volatile (Venus-Pluto conduction or Venus-Pluto square) or even where one of the couple is a stalker or obsessed (usually Pluto opposite Venus).Consider that same energy not between two people but within one person.
For a free natal chart, I recommend you visit astro.com and follow the instructions to create a chart under Extended Chart Selection. (Sorry–I can’t do this for you, but it’s easy for you to do yourself.)
What do YOU think? If you have a natal chart of someone diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, what unique aspects do you see? No names or birthrates of the individual, please, but please comment below.
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