Neptune-Sun Relationships: Idealistic Soul Mate or the Biggest Liar Ever? (Applied Astrology)

Drying out the cauldron under the amazing, fast-growing azaleas that were planted 10 years ago and suddenly love me. Photo copyright by Lorna Tedder; all rights reserved.

After my first Neptune-Sun relationship ended, I became fascinated with what astrology tells us about this conjunction—to the point that I tried for the next 6 months to date nothing but men with the same birthday as the first.  Let’s just say that this conjunction in synastry can be that good.  Or…that bad.

What I discovered in looking at a variety of synastry  charts is that Neptune conjunct Sun tends to go in one of two directions:  either idealistic Shangri-la relationships or ones filled with deception, depending on which type of chart.  I wish I’d known this before my second Neptune-Sun relationship!

Neptune has such, well…NEBULOUS…energy.  It’s the planet of uncertainty, spirituality, idealism, deception, escapism, mysticism, fantasy, fogginess.  It may not seem that idealism and deception could be represented by the same planet, but there are qualities of non-reality to all of these examples.

Based on the charts I’ve reviewed and the

relationships I’m aware of with this conjunction in synastry, if one person’s Sun conjuncts another’s Neptune in their natal charts, the result seems to be a “Fantasy Island” relationship.  This is the idealistic, hazy, soul mate relationship.  It can be highly spiritual.  It tends to be idealistic and somewhat surreal.  It’s definitely ungrounded.  You see each other in such an idealized, perfect way that you’re not really sure the other person is who you think or instead is a dream.  This is romance novel perfect love.  As a friend pointed out to me when I was in such a relationship, it was like being on a luxury vacation, a once-in-a-lifetime feeling—or a feeling that it can happen only once in a lifetime.

This particular brand of Neptune-Sun relationship occurred only when natal charts were compared, not in Composite or Davidson charts.  In the natal charts, we can see how each individual both projects and reacts to the other.  It’s not so much about the relationship as how the individuals relate, and there is usually some element of heavenly bliss between the two.    I’ve witnessed a few of this kind of relationship where the couple is caught up in bliss that just gets better every year, and it’s hard to believe how long they’ve been together and sustained the beautiful fantasy they live in.  It is, I think, the ultimate in romantic love.  The deception, if any, is small or either could be classified perhaps as self-deception.

The Composite and Davidson charts are more about the relationship itself, and from what I’ve seen, it’s often the ultimate in romantic deception.  The Composite chart is made up of midpoints of the plants of each individual, creating a chart of  an unreal time and place, but representing how the relationship looks to others.  The Davidson chart is based on the mid-point in birth time and place, and represents how the relationship actually is.  For this reason, I prefer the Davidson chart when I want to know what’s really going on between two people, but both charts are useful.

The most shocking case of deception I have ever experienced in a relationship personally was one where there was an almost exact Sun and Neptune conjunction in our Davidson chart while in our Composite Mid-Point method, the Sun was in exact opposition to  Neptune.  I have charted several other relationship where the positions are reversed—an opposition in the Davidson chart and a conjunction in the Composite Mid-Point chart—but there was that same odd blend of idealism and extreme deception.  Both wanted the other to be something he or she was not.  This seems to be true of all Neptune-Sun relationships I’ve studied  when these conjunctions or oppositions are found in a combined chart.

If you find yourself in a Neptune-Sun relationship, keep your feet on the ground or risk losing your head.  Sometimes, though, it’s worth it.


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